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    Friday, 22 January 2016

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    Have You Prophesied since you believed ?(2)
    Acts 19:2 KJV
    [2] He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since
    ye believed?...
    This question referred to supernatural utterance .
    First seen in the second chapter
    Acts 2:4 KJV
    [4] And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to
    speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
    It's obvious they spoke with tongues amongst other things .
    As a simple rule of bible interpretation ,the epistles explain the
    book of acts to us.
    This book is an eye witness account .
    Nothing written about spiritual growth .
    Just historical facts .
    Paul teaches that except via Interpretation the audience can't
    discern what is said in tongues
    1 Corinthians 14:2,16,23 KJV
    [2] For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not
    unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him ;
    howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
    16] Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that
    occupieth the room of the unlearned say Amen at thy giving of
    thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest? [23] If
    therefore the whole church be come together into one place,
    and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that are
    unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad?
    If the audience in Acts 2 did discern the supernatural
    utterance here,it must have been because interpretation of
    tongues was present as well
    Acts 2:6,8,11 KJV
    [6] Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came
    together, and were confounded, because that every man heard
    them speak in his own language.
    8] And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we
    were born?
    [11] Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our
    tongues the wonderful works of God.
    To follow Pauls teaching ,tongues will be unknown to man
    except if interpreted .
    Further more Peters sermon much later didn't mention tongues
    He taught from Joel's Prophecy
    Acts 2:16-18 KJV
    [16] But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
    [17] And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will
    pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your
    daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see
    visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
    [18] And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour
    out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:
    Peter emphasizes prophesying .
    Some have thought ,we had a convergence of different
    languages on this ocassion .
    Firstly and critically is to fully assert that Pentecost was a
    feast for Jews including those in diaspora .
    So all men present were natively Jews
    Acts 2:5,14 KJV
    [5] And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men,
    out of every nation under heaven.
    [14] But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice,
    and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at
    Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:
    Earlier mentioned nations were places of domicile not their
    native origin.
    They would travel down to Jerusalem for such National Feasts
    As Jesus' parents did earlier for the Passover
    Luke 2:41 KJV
    [41] Now his parents went to Jerusalem every year at the feast
    of the passover.
    Same as Paul
    Acts 20:16 KJV
    [16] For Paul had determined to sail by Ephesus, because he
    would not spend the time in Asia: for he hasted, if it were
    possible for him, to be at Jerusalem the day of Pentecost.
    He lived in Diaspora .
    1 Corinthians 16:8 KJV
    [8] But I will tarry at Ephesus until Pentecost.
    Obviously the entire audience in Acts 2 had a common
    language as they were Jews .
    So if tongues was spoken and the audience knew what was
    being said then it means we had interpretation of tongues in
    operation .
    Paul explains this
    1 Corinthians 14:5 KJV
    [5] I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye
    prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that
    speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church
    may receive edifying.
    Tongues plus interpretation of tongues equals prophecy .
    Obviously those who received the Gift of the Holy Ghost in the
    book of acts prophesied via tongues plus interpretation
    Whilst we might not find this readily explained in two other
    instances ,we can infer from it.
    Acts 8:18,20-21 KJV
    [18] And when Simon saw that through laying on of the
    apostles' hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them
    money,
    [20] But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee,
    because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be
    purchased with money.
    [21] Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter: for thy heart
    is not right in the sight of God.
    Tongues wasn't mentioned rather" matter "or better still
    utterances.
    Just like Acts 2
    Acts 10:45-46 KJV
    [45] And they of the circumcision which believed were
    astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the
    Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
    [46] For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify
    God. Then answered Peter,
    Tongues and Magnified God.
    They knew they Praised God because they understood the
    tongues via interpretation .
    Some have wondered if tongues were languages of others
    from different nations .
    It's clear Peter and Cornelius spoke same language in day to
    day usual communication .
    Peter didn't preach earlier using an interpreter .
    The tongues will be new tongues ( mark 16:17)
    Pauls submission later on should clear the air
    1 Corinthians 14:18 KJV
    [18] I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all:
    If tongues refer to human languages not spoken by the speaker
    in every day use ,this would look preposterous .
    Tongues is unknown to mans understanding except via
    interpretation .
    1 Corinthians 14:2 KJV
    [2] For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not
    unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him ;
    howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
    Notice "him "is italicized .
    No man understands tongues ,not the speaker .
    That said .
    Much later in Ephesus,this emerges Better and clearer
    After the highlighted question
    Acts 19:2 KJV
    [2] He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since
    ye believed?
    Paul goes further to minister the gift or things of the Holy
    Ghost which is supernatural utterances to the audience
    Acts 19:6 KJV
    [6] And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy
    Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and
    prophesied.
    Prophecy is in a known language ,Tongues is unknown to
    mans mind except via interpretation .
    So ,at the first instance ,the believers here spoke in tongues
    and interpretation of tongues .
    It's clear that's what was taught and desired .
    If we stick to just tongues in our preaching ,that's what our
    audience will desire .
    Things of the Spirit specifically utterances respond to desire
    1 Corinthians 12:31 KJV
    [31] But covet earnestly the best gifts:
    To covet means to want .
    1 Corinthians 14:1 KJV
    .. and desire spiritual gifts , but rather that ye may prophesy.
    Rather here means much more ,we shall view this later
    Desire .
    1 Corinthians 14:12 KJV
    [12] Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts ,
    seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church.
    Zealous here means want earnestly .We must seek to edify .
    Edify here refers to prophesying as he had earlier taught
    1 Corinthians 14:3-4 KJV
    [3] But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification,
    and exhortation, and comfort. [4] he that prophesieth edifieth
    the church.
    We must desire ,want and earnestly seek to.
    1 Corinthians 14:39 KJV
    [39] Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to
    speak with tongues.
    All believers must want to speak in tongues plus interpretation
    .
    It's very possible every time ,and in every church meeting .
    1 Corinthians 14:26 KJV
    [26] How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every
    one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath
    a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto
    edifying.
    He doesn't mention prophecy here but obviously implies it if
    we had been following his narratives .
    Edifying here is tongues plus interpretation of tongues ,which is
    prophecy .
    All church members should and can prophesy .
    1 Corinthians 14:23 KJV
    [23] If therefore the whole church be come together into one
    place, and all speak with tongues...
    We can all speak in tongues .
    In prayer and praise .
    We can interpret and prophesy too
    All of us
    1 Corinthians 14:24 KJV
    [24] But if all prophesy..
    This Happens when we want to and if we so desire ,when
    rightly taught .
    1 Corinthians 12:1 KJV
    [1] Now concerning spiritual gifts , brethren, I would not have
    you ignorant.
    So many tongues speaking believers are in ignorance and
    wallow in doubt too as touching things of the spirit including
    tongues .
    This should not be so .
    I counsel that tongues shouldnt be taught Alone without
    explaining interpretation of tongues .
    We shall view this much later .
    However we must all desire things of spirit hence we are able
    to answer Pauls query in the affirmative
    Have you prophesied since you believed ...
    To be continued
    I call you blessed
    Jesus is Lord,We win

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